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		<title><![CDATA[Tuning Vine Forum - Ideas and suggestions]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Pitch notation]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=64</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=2943">Simon Martin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Robin,<br />
<br />
It would be great to have various options to display pitch notations, in addition to cents deviation. I would use HEJI, personally.<br />
<br />
(It's great that you keep developing your software! I still use it on a daily basis when composing.)<br />
<br />
Best,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Robin,<br />
<br />
It would be great to have various options to display pitch notations, in addition to cents deviation. I would use HEJI, personally.<br />
<br />
(It's great that you keep developing your software! I still use it on a daily basis when composing.)<br />
<br />
Best,]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[5-limit lattice extension]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=59</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=22726">Jesse Nebeker</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I find it a little cumbersome to shift the vine to access ratios that are combinations of 5 and another prime limit higher than 3. I've seen the discussion here about rotating the lattice in multidimensional space, but to me a more helpful function would be the option to include at least one more degree of 5th harmonic above and below each main node on the 2-3 lattice. The icons on the top left display could include a square on either side of the 3 that can be clicked on and hidden just like the main one -- or a small "show/hide 5-limit ratios" on each main 2-3 lattice node. Obviously making even just one red line and new node point with its associated grapes or flowers could get crowded, so the columns of grapes could be grouped closer teach other to made this happen (this could be good anyway, it can be hard to tell where the otonal group ends and the utonal group an octave and a fifth above it starts).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I find it a little cumbersome to shift the vine to access ratios that are combinations of 5 and another prime limit higher than 3. I've seen the discussion here about rotating the lattice in multidimensional space, but to me a more helpful function would be the option to include at least one more degree of 5th harmonic above and below each main node on the 2-3 lattice. The icons on the top left display could include a square on either side of the 3 that can be clicked on and hidden just like the main one -- or a small "show/hide 5-limit ratios" on each main 2-3 lattice node. Obviously making even just one red line and new node point with its associated grapes or flowers could get crowded, so the columns of grapes could be grouped closer teach other to made this happen (this could be good anyway, it can be hard to tell where the otonal group ends and the utonal group an octave and a fifth above it starts).]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Performance options]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=35</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2021 15:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=22697">Chiel</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Robin,<br />
<br />
I just ran in to Philipp Moser and he sent me a link to your app. I am now playing with the demo version and I find it very interesting!  I have been experimenting with micro tunings on various synthesizers recently, but your app offers a far more intuitive interface than a retuned piano keyboard.<br />
<br />
<br />
However, as it stands it would be of limited use to me because I don't have any other way of sounding notes other than turning them on or off with mouseclicks. I read some posts about adding MIDI here but these seem to be about adding MIDI output. Are you considering adding MIDI input as well? I would be very interested in purchasing this app if I could somehow map a (grid based) midi controller to the nodes on screen. Even just mapping a midi piano keyboard would be very interesting, since the app gives so much visual feedback. This could make it very promising as a software instrument, even with the limited sound sources now available. Especially if you could add a simple ADSR type envelope.<br />
<br />
About MIDI out: are you familiar with the Madrona Labs soft synths, Aalto and Kaivo? These are very nice synths with a lot of sound shaping potential and they already have the option to load custom scales, so this might facilitate integration?<br />
<br />
All best,<br />
<br />
Chiel]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Robin,<br />
<br />
I just ran in to Philipp Moser and he sent me a link to your app. I am now playing with the demo version and I find it very interesting!  I have been experimenting with micro tunings on various synthesizers recently, but your app offers a far more intuitive interface than a retuned piano keyboard.<br />
<br />
<br />
However, as it stands it would be of limited use to me because I don't have any other way of sounding notes other than turning them on or off with mouseclicks. I read some posts about adding MIDI here but these seem to be about adding MIDI output. Are you considering adding MIDI input as well? I would be very interested in purchasing this app if I could somehow map a (grid based) midi controller to the nodes on screen. Even just mapping a midi piano keyboard would be very interesting, since the app gives so much visual feedback. This could make it very promising as a software instrument, even with the limited sound sources now available. Especially if you could add a simple ADSR type envelope.<br />
<br />
About MIDI out: are you familiar with the Madrona Labs soft synths, Aalto and Kaivo? These are very nice synths with a lot of sound shaping potential and they already have the option to load custom scales, so this might facilitate integration?<br />
<br />
All best,<br />
<br />
Chiel]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Multiple instances]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=24</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=2943">Simon Martin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just an idea, in case users have not noticed: it is possible to open multiples instances of the Vine. <br />
<br />
Personally I often use 2 at a time, either for 2 tonalities or 2 different sounds (for example, sine waves + saw) I want to use/hear simultaneously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Just an idea, in case users have not noticed: it is possible to open multiples instances of the Vine. <br />
<br />
Personally I often use 2 at a time, either for 2 tonalities or 2 different sounds (for example, sine waves + saw) I want to use/hear simultaneously.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Rotating harmonic space with respect to the vine]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=11</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=69">Marc John</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'd like firstly to record my admiration for Robin Hayward's invention. It opens up harmonic space in a beautiful way.<br />
<br />
Here a suggestion that may have occurred to a few users already: it would be possible to introduce, alongside the transpose feature, the ability to -rotate- the vine through harmonic space or, equally, to rotate the harmonic space in relation to the vine.<br />
<br />
To explain: I can pick up a cube off the table and rotate it through 90 degrees around any one of 3 axes, so that when i put it down again the corners that are now touching the tabletop are different to the ones that were initially touching it.<br />
<br />
Just so, one could add to the software the ability to rotate the represented 9-dimensional harmonic space around one of its axes. The result would be that different pitches -and- different pitch-relationships would come to lie in the main lattice usually occupied by light blue and grey balls and struts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'd like firstly to record my admiration for Robin Hayward's invention. It opens up harmonic space in a beautiful way.<br />
<br />
Here a suggestion that may have occurred to a few users already: it would be possible to introduce, alongside the transpose feature, the ability to -rotate- the vine through harmonic space or, equally, to rotate the harmonic space in relation to the vine.<br />
<br />
To explain: I can pick up a cube off the table and rotate it through 90 degrees around any one of 3 axes, so that when i put it down again the corners that are now touching the tabletop are different to the ones that were initially touching it.<br />
<br />
Just so, one could add to the software the ability to rotate the represented 9-dimensional harmonic space around one of its axes. The result would be that different pitches -and- different pitch-relationships would come to lie in the main lattice usually occupied by light blue and grey balls and struts.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shifts]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=2">Robin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[When using the shift arrows, placed left and right of the number boxes, I find it helpful to imagine harmonic space moving through the tuning vine. The vine itself stays static, but the pitches of the nodes reflect the shifts that have taken place. <br />
<br />
The shift feature allows the user virtually unlimited exploration of Just Intonation up to prime number 23, whilst enabling pitches to be simultaneously sounded between 20 and 20 000 Hz. <br />
<br />
NB the 'shift' arrows were originally referred to as 'transposition' arrows. This proved confusing as it implied that the pitches were thereby transposed up and down, whereas only their position within the lattice is changed. 'Shift' reflects this changing position without implying that any change in the sounds themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[When using the shift arrows, placed left and right of the number boxes, I find it helpful to imagine harmonic space moving through the tuning vine. The vine itself stays static, but the pitches of the nodes reflect the shifts that have taken place. <br />
<br />
The shift feature allows the user virtually unlimited exploration of Just Intonation up to prime number 23, whilst enabling pitches to be simultaneously sounded between 20 and 20 000 Hz. <br />
<br />
NB the 'shift' arrows were originally referred to as 'transposition' arrows. This proved confusing as it implied that the pitches were thereby transposed up and down, whereas only their position within the lattice is changed. 'Shift' reflects this changing position without implying that any change in the sounds themselves.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Memory]]></title>
			<link>https://tuningvine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://tuningvine.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=2">Robin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[We've been asked if we can include a 'save' option in future versions. Presets will allow the user to save and recall specific patches, rather than having to screenshot them and build them up again from scratch. This is high on our list of priorities for v2.0.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[We've been asked if we can include a 'save' option in future versions. Presets will allow the user to save and recall specific patches, rather than having to screenshot them and build them up again from scratch. This is high on our list of priorities for v2.0.]]></content:encoded>
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